No I haven't won the lotto, but I'm trying to lay out a long term plan so I can gather the parts to build engines for some of my projects. I had started gathering parts but I was quickly told by Caddy that I'd bought components because they were cheap an not because they went together or compliment each other. End result was a hoard of parts that wouldnt result in much preformance. So I've off loaded some of them an kept what is required.
My current list is quite short but where I'm starting from.
Various secondhand 1600/1300 cases, engines, barrels.
Complete Mexican 40hp 1200 motor but with AS41 case.
Ex Alfa Webber 40's.
Reconditioned heads, 113 I think, machined for Formula VEE regs but taken too far. Unknown height.
Empi Inlet Manifolds up to 48mm, new
Engle 110 cam, New.
Other bits are more for dress up, Scat oil fillers an Scat Stainless rocker covers an Bugpack Alloy rocker covers.
What do I need? After buzzing about in the Oval for years I've come to realize the pro's of a good 1600 TP with simple carb set up, (that my Dads preached for years) so that the way forward for most VW's IMO but I do have 3 engines I would like to increase the capacity on.
1: The drag bug from last year.
The intention for this was always to end up as a track/sprint/hillclimb car or a historic rally car, probably a mix of everything. Having had the opportunity to run the Bugbitz motor I think it might actually be a bit too strong for this purpose, maybe I'm wrong, but as they say, power is nothing without control. Car setup is more important an I've seen some amazing things done with simple motor packages. Guesstimates put the drag motor between 120-130, given that, I guess 90-110 would be a good goal to start with. Powerwise I like torquey motors an the drag motor pulled flawlessly, from mid, to top but it had a real strong mid range but seemed to flatten off at the top. Again I'm only going on feel but that's probably what I'd need for a 4speed box. Something like Ross's motor could be the way to go. Reading on shoptalk a lot of rally guys go 1776 as they say they are more reliable than the 1914, but others say that as the cost difference is so little, that there's no point in the 1776 an do you really expect 100,000 from a race motor. Dave has suggested a 90mm pots with 76mm crank as another option. I really need to figure cost of parts vs machining.
2: Manx2 buggy motor.
I really need to start the build of this soon as I've had it so long. This is more of a show engine as a buggy is so light an my Dad keeps saying you wont need anymore power than a 1600. I know Rob Kilham wheelies his buugy every time at Santa Pod with a 1776. I did want something more than a 1600 as it reads better on paper but I had wanted to stay away from regular figure like 1641 an 1776. Pat had suggested stock everything with 76mm crank to give 1750ish but having seen the clearencing he's had to do it seems to be more labour intensive than he thought. So do I go back to a 1641 or stump fo case work an go 1776, an is 1914 too much. I'd like twin carbs as they are so exposed on a buggy but I do want it to look 70's an use similar stuff from that period.
3: The Bouncer. Dreaming now!
This would be a real long term goal. I've always like the number 2276 an if there was ever a car I'd like a silly motor I. It's my 62, would it make it less fun an less practical than the current 1641 (apparently). Anyway that's a few years down the line.
There you go, I need a plan, make a spec list, allocate my bits an pieces to each, figure out what the need an start saving/collecting. But I need suggestions an opinions....... I'm terrible at making decisions.
My current list is quite short but where I'm starting from.
Various secondhand 1600/1300 cases, engines, barrels.
Complete Mexican 40hp 1200 motor but with AS41 case.
Ex Alfa Webber 40's.
Reconditioned heads, 113 I think, machined for Formula VEE regs but taken too far. Unknown height.
Empi Inlet Manifolds up to 48mm, new
Engle 110 cam, New.
Other bits are more for dress up, Scat oil fillers an Scat Stainless rocker covers an Bugpack Alloy rocker covers.
What do I need? After buzzing about in the Oval for years I've come to realize the pro's of a good 1600 TP with simple carb set up, (that my Dads preached for years) so that the way forward for most VW's IMO but I do have 3 engines I would like to increase the capacity on.
1: The drag bug from last year.
The intention for this was always to end up as a track/sprint/hillclimb car or a historic rally car, probably a mix of everything. Having had the opportunity to run the Bugbitz motor I think it might actually be a bit too strong for this purpose, maybe I'm wrong, but as they say, power is nothing without control. Car setup is more important an I've seen some amazing things done with simple motor packages. Guesstimates put the drag motor between 120-130, given that, I guess 90-110 would be a good goal to start with. Powerwise I like torquey motors an the drag motor pulled flawlessly, from mid, to top but it had a real strong mid range but seemed to flatten off at the top. Again I'm only going on feel but that's probably what I'd need for a 4speed box. Something like Ross's motor could be the way to go. Reading on shoptalk a lot of rally guys go 1776 as they say they are more reliable than the 1914, but others say that as the cost difference is so little, that there's no point in the 1776 an do you really expect 100,000 from a race motor. Dave has suggested a 90mm pots with 76mm crank as another option. I really need to figure cost of parts vs machining.
2: Manx2 buggy motor.
I really need to start the build of this soon as I've had it so long. This is more of a show engine as a buggy is so light an my Dad keeps saying you wont need anymore power than a 1600. I know Rob Kilham wheelies his buugy every time at Santa Pod with a 1776. I did want something more than a 1600 as it reads better on paper but I had wanted to stay away from regular figure like 1641 an 1776. Pat had suggested stock everything with 76mm crank to give 1750ish but having seen the clearencing he's had to do it seems to be more labour intensive than he thought. So do I go back to a 1641 or stump fo case work an go 1776, an is 1914 too much. I'd like twin carbs as they are so exposed on a buggy but I do want it to look 70's an use similar stuff from that period.
3: The Bouncer. Dreaming now!
This would be a real long term goal. I've always like the number 2276 an if there was ever a car I'd like a silly motor I. It's my 62, would it make it less fun an less practical than the current 1641 (apparently). Anyway that's a few years down the line.
There you go, I need a plan, make a spec list, allocate my bits an pieces to each, figure out what the need an start saving/collecting. But I need suggestions an opinions....... I'm terrible at making decisions.
